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Post by moonpuppy on May 1, 2009 9:31:32 GMT -5
The CIA's $1,000 a Day Specialists on Waterboarding, Interrogationsthey go on and name the two men and post their faces for all to see. When will the Independent Investigation start? These men's lives are now in danger and for what, distraction from the job that Obama is doing? I still find it strange that Obama can release all these records with no problem but can't seem to find his original birth certificate.
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Post by sargebaby1 on May 1, 2009 21:02:08 GMT -5
Get em, MP! I fear there will be more attention diverters in the future!
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Post by moonpuppy on May 2, 2009 6:28:11 GMT -5
you know it Sarge, this is all a diversion, throwing red meat to the liberal base while unpopular policies are put in place. The liberals are upset because Obama is not honoring his campaign promises, all this stuff on "torture" is to keep them occupied.
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Post by sargebaby1 on May 2, 2009 21:24:17 GMT -5
Got this in Email this morning: Apparently it checks out!
Jim, Thanks for sending the e-mail on the NRA subscription. Following is another e-mail you and those on the list might be interested in seeing. I did check the various truth or fiction sites to see if the note was bogus. There were numerous places that verified the DOD directive. _________________________ Better get your ammo now while it is still available!
Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of .223 Ammo in America. They sell 9mm, .45, ..223 ammunition. They normally buy spent brass from the US Department of Defense. Spent brass is "one time used" shell cases used by our Military for training purposes. They buy the brass, recondition it, and then reload the brass for resale to Law Enforcement, Gun Clubs, Gun Shops, and stores like Wal-Mart. They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time. This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and informed him that from now on the DoD will be destroying the spent brass, shredding it. It will no longer be available to the ammo makers, unless they buy it in a scrap shredded condition (which they have no use for). The shredded brass is now going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap metal, after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling the brass to China for less money than the ammo makers have been paying, plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do the accounting paperwork. This sure helps the economy now doesn't it? Sell cheaper to China, and do not sell at all to a proven US business. Any hidden agenda working here? Obama going after the Firearms Industry and our ammunition!! The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors had already purchased a load of brass last week. The DoD contacted him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it was destroyed. Shell cases he had already bought! The brass has no value to the ammo maker if it is destroyed/shredded/melted. The ammo manufacturer only uses the empty brass cases to reload different calibers, mainly .223 bullets. The owner of Georgia Arms says that he will have to lay off at least half of his 60 workers, within 2-3 months if the DoD will no longer sell spent brass cases to the industry. Georgia Arms has 2-3 months of inventory to use, by summer they're out. If the Reloading Industry has to purchase new manufacture brass cases, then the cost of ammunition will double or even triple, plus Obama want to add a 500% tax on each shell. You can read the information and see the DoD letter to Georgia. The Shootist Site www.theshootist.net/2009/03/dod-ends-sale-of-expended-military.html If you're not outraged at what this administration is doing you should be! Be Afraid! Be Very Very Afraid! Get involved! It's Your Freedom and Our Country They're Stealing! If You Fail to Act Now, there may not be a Free United States tomorrow I implore you to get involved and forward this to as many people you can. Contact your legislators and put them on notice, We're fed up with what's going on! This is a call to action. Act now while you still can, or stay silent, roll over, and watch our country die!
Regards, Joe Shevlin, Jr.
--- On Fri, 5/1/09, kbachand wrote:
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It is very important that anti-gun congressmen see how many people they will have to fight to get their legislation through.
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Post by Spider on May 3, 2009 13:24:45 GMT -5
Apparently the issue that Sarge posted above has been rectified.
But go ahead and join the National Rifle Assoc.. It's FREE. __ 'S'------------------------- From the NRA Site ...Military Surplus Cartridge Case Issue Resolved Friday, March 20, 2009 This week, the Department of Defense (DoD) informed NRA-ILA that fired military small arms cartridge cases are once again eligible for sale, following a temporary suspension in such sales instituted last week. NRA-ILA began discussions with DoD shortly after the suspension took effect, and we were assured from the beginning that efforts were underway to resolve the issue favorably. DoD additionally confirmed the lifting of the suspension to pro-Second Amendment United States Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who sent the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) a joint letter vigorously opposing the suspension, on the grounds that it had "an impact on small businesses who sell reloaded ammunition utilizing these fired casings, and upon individual gun owners who purchase spent military brass at considerable cost savings for their personal use." Everyone who would have been impacted by the suspension, had it become permanent, owes thanks to Senator Baucus for his leadership on this issue, as well as to Senator Tester and U.S. Representative Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), who also weighed in strongly on behalf of gun owners and the suppliers from whom they obtain ammunition reloaded with surplus military brass. In announcing that the suspension has been lifted, DoD also made clear that no cartridge cases that, in the absence of the suspension, would have been sold for reloading purposes were destroyed while the suspension was in effect. Such cases were instead protected by DoD during the suspension, and are again eligible for sale. With ammunition currently in short supply, that was welcome news, to be sure. DLA also put to rest various theories and rumors that were circulated on the Internet concerning the reason for the suspension. As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which, in the interest of national security, halted the sale of items within a broad category of government property including, but not limited to, surplus small arms cartridge cases. To make cartridge cases eligible for sale once again, DoD demilitarization officials verified that the cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for use within the United States, and then executed the re-categorization. Whereas during the brief suspension, fired cartridge cases would have been releasable only if the purchaser crushed or smelted them, now the cases may be sold as before, intact and re-loadable. DoD also assured NRA-ILA that companies previously authorized to purchase cartridge cases under Trade Security Controls need no further vetting at this time, and are eligible to resume purchasing cases under the policy adopted this week. In sum, a problem that could have had serious repercussions for the remanufactured ammunition industry and the countless gun owners who support it, appears to have been resolved quickly. [/color] Copyright 2009, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action. This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes. 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 800-392-8683
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